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		<title>Comment on Ab Circle Pro 2.0 &#8211; still crap by Dr. Bill Sukala</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteandblack.co.nz/2011/07/ab-circle-pro-2-0-still-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bill Sukala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a product has the &quot;As Seen on TV&quot; logo, then you can pretty well assume it&#039;s not going to be the highest quality product.  Every Ab Circle Pro machine I&#039;ve used has been pretty flimsy and rickety.  No way it would last in a commercial facility for more than a month or two.  

Everyone is looking for the quick-fix but as I pointed out in my Permanent Fat Loss Principles article, the &quot;SECRET&quot; is that there IS no secret:  http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/permanent-fat-loss-principles-secret-is-no-secret/

As you said, good nutrition and a healthy lifestyle is still the best medicine for slimming down and staying that way.  

Cheers,
Dr. Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a product has the &#8220;As Seen on TV&#8221; logo, then you can pretty well assume it&#8217;s not going to be the highest quality product.  Every Ab Circle Pro machine I&#8217;ve used has been pretty flimsy and rickety.  No way it would last in a commercial facility for more than a month or two.  </p>
<p>Everyone is looking for the quick-fix but as I pointed out in my Permanent Fat Loss Principles article, the &#8220;SECRET&#8221; is that there IS no secret:  <a href="http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/permanent-fat-loss-principles-secret-is-no-secret/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/permanent-fat-loss-principles-secret-is-no-secret/?referer=');">http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/permanent-fat-loss-principles-secret-is-no-secret/</a></p>
<p>As you said, good nutrition and a healthy lifestyle is still the best medicine for slimming down and staying that way.  </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Dr. Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ab Circle Pro 2.0 &#8211; still crap by Angel</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteandblack.co.nz/2011/07/ab-circle-pro-2-0-still-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-2721</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 07:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that same as seen on tv shop is selling yet another piece of exercise crap promoted by none other than Jennifer.

All the exercise equipment that that tv shop sells is crap, will fall apart and is downright dangerous. Who remembers pyramid power from 2006 that thing fails to work after a short time from using on the various body parts, as a result of stretching the coil.

Society is becoming lazy and after a quick fix just take a a look at yahoo answers, that website is full of naive people who would believe those ads.

Better to promote good nutrition than unsafe crap such as the ab circle pro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that same as seen on tv shop is selling yet another piece of exercise crap promoted by none other than Jennifer.</p>
<p>All the exercise equipment that that tv shop sells is crap, will fall apart and is downright dangerous. Who remembers pyramid power from 2006 that thing fails to work after a short time from using on the various body parts, as a result of stretching the coil.</p>
<p>Society is becoming lazy and after a quick fix just take a a look at yahoo answers, that website is full of naive people who would believe those ads.</p>
<p>Better to promote good nutrition than unsafe crap such as the ab circle pro</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ab Circle Pro 2.0 &#8211; still crap by Dr. Bill Sukala</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteandblack.co.nz/2011/07/ab-circle-pro-2-0-still-crap/comment-page-1/#comment-2719</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bill Sukala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi KT,
Thank you for your thoughtful comment.  In short, I couldn&#039;t agree more.  I do not know of a SINGLE qualified health/fitness professional anywhere in the world who thinks the Ab Circle Pro is worth its salt.  Moreover, everyone I&#039;ve talked to about the product is of the opinion (and myself included) that Jennifer Nicole Lee is a sell-out.  The business is money, the storefront is fitness.  Simple.  Anyone with a modicum of understanding about exercise physiology, kinesiology, and biomechanics knows full well the ab circle pro marketing claims are absurd and egregiously misleading (let alone the false claims they make).  Jennifer Nicole Lee claims to be a fitness expert in promotional materials, so if she is as qualified as she believes herself to be, then how could she not know she&#039;s promoting misinformation?  Then again, I&#039;m under the impression that she&#039;s too busy laughing all the way to the bank to consider just how unethical it is to hawk a useless piece of scrap metal and plastic.  

There&#039;s only one single thing more sad than the above: that the general public who is, as you say, naive actually believes this garbage and puts blind faith in a pitchwoman not worth their trust or respect.  Very sad.

Thanks again for your comment.

Kind regards,
Dr. Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi KT,<br />
Thank you for your thoughtful comment.  In short, I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  I do not know of a SINGLE qualified health/fitness professional anywhere in the world who thinks the Ab Circle Pro is worth its salt.  Moreover, everyone I&#8217;ve talked to about the product is of the opinion (and myself included) that Jennifer Nicole Lee is a sell-out.  The business is money, the storefront is fitness.  Simple.  Anyone with a modicum of understanding about exercise physiology, kinesiology, and biomechanics knows full well the ab circle pro marketing claims are absurd and egregiously misleading (let alone the false claims they make).  Jennifer Nicole Lee claims to be a fitness expert in promotional materials, so if she is as qualified as she believes herself to be, then how could she not know she&#8217;s promoting misinformation?  Then again, I&#8217;m under the impression that she&#8217;s too busy laughing all the way to the bank to consider just how unethical it is to hawk a useless piece of scrap metal and plastic.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one single thing more sad than the above: that the general public who is, as you say, naive actually believes this garbage and puts blind faith in a pitchwoman not worth their trust or respect.  Very sad.</p>
<p>Thanks again for your comment.</p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Dr. Bill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ab Circle Pro 2.0 &#8211; still crap by KT</title>
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		<dc:creator>KT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professional Integrity 

In 2009, founders of the Ab Circle Pro (hereafter referred to as ACP) claimed to have developed a machine that would revolutionise the fitness industry worldwide. They have reported sales of over two million units and while there have been numerous negative reviews throughout the global fitness industry, sales continue to grow.  This is evident with the introduction of the Ab Circle Pro V.2 and a more portable Ab Circle Pro Mini. 

A quick search on the Internet and you will find a wave of negative and positive ACP reviews from fitness experts and members of the public.  It is easy for the general public to get confused about whether this product is a scam or whether it really works. However one thing is clear, from a business point of view the marketing team for ACP have hit the nail on the head with the millions of consumers searching for the holy grail of weight loss methods. 

ACP engage fitness celebrity Jennifer Nicole Lee (JNL) to front a series of high-tempo infomercials and shopping channel adverts in which she makes some extraordinary claims and sends out some misleading key messages. My comments are not aimed at analyzing each claim and contesting their validity or not. That has been done and will be referred to later. My focus is whether or not JNL’s decision to join with ACP and promote the product is ethically contrary to the values and/or code of conduct expected of fitness professionals. At the very least you would expect a fitness expert to act with professional integrity.  

It is worth taking a quick look at who JNL is and what she stands for. JNL is one of the world&#039;s most accomplished Super Fitness Models, and is an international celebrity due to her high profile wellness merchandise and key media appearances. Her career began when she lost over 80 lbs after the birth of her children. Her motivational weight loss success story caught the world’s attention, after she gained notoriety as a professional fitness competitor, holding countless titles and crowns. 

She was soon a frequent guest on major US national talk shows, such as the Oprah Winfrey Oprah, E! Entertainment, Fox and Friends, etc. She is the CEO and visionary behind JNL Worldwide, Inc and is internationally recognized in over 110 different countries. Most importantly she is a devoted wife and mother, representing the millions of other mom’s and wives in the world with a brand they can trust.   “It’s my goal and passion to increase the quality of your lifestyle.” - JNL

It is fair to say that in business, all professionals are expected to act in accordance with a code of conduct or code of ethics relevant to that profession.   I have cited a few relevant examples from a selection of Fitness Organisations. 

•	Fitness Australia Code of Ethics 
1.	Professional Integrity (In part only)
o	Advertising.   Exercise professionals may advertise in connection with their professional practice if the advertising is not false, not misleading or deceptive or likely to mislead or deceive, is not vulgar or sensational, and does not claim or imply superiority of the exercise professional over any or all other exercise professionals. The advertisement for the exercise professional may contain a statement of the areas of expertise in practice.
2.	Fitness New Zealand Code of Ethics
3.	A member of Fitness New Zealand, and agrees to: (In part only)
o	make no false claims with regard to any of the products and services offered by the club. 
o	not use deceptive or high-pressure sales tactics.
4.	Global Fitness Association Members Code of Conduct
5.	As a Member of Global Fitness Association, we agree to operate our facility(s) and conduct ourselves in accordance with the Global Fitness Association Code of Conduct, as set out below.   (In part only)
o	Members should provide a trustworthy, safe, and caring exercise environment for our clients.  

In May 2011, each of the JNL and ACP claims was scientifically reviewed by Dr William Sukala PhD clinical exercise physiologist. The full review can be found online at http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/ab-circle-pro-review-fat-marketing-claims-thin-on-truth/ however the verdict is clear as outlined below.  

The verdict. After reviewing the infomercial, website, and product information, in my professional opinion, the Ab Circle Pro represents yet another “too-good-to-be-true” exercise contraption. I believe the product advertising is littered with confusing and/or misleading claims which, if not overtly false, clearly distort basic physiology and kinesiology to serve its marketing objectives. In my 20 years as a health professional, I don’t think I’ve seen a more egregiously offensive ad campaign for a fitness product. For reasons I’ve highlighted above, I feel this company 1) warrants closer scrutiny by consumer protection and regulatory agencies; and 2) should be held accountable by these agencies to furnish legitimate proof which supports their marketing claims.

Can you forgive a naive public for expecting that JNL’s claims about the ACP are true, not misleading? The black and white answer is “no”, everyone should look at the fine print and read the detail rather than claim that they were duped. However, when you look at JNL’s professional profile and the fitness industry’s code of ethics, her personal goal and passion and the fact that she is a wife and mother who has transformed herself, the fine print and the detail are all lost in the hype.  Its obvious to me that JNL has lost sight of her professional integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professional Integrity </p>
<p>In 2009, founders of the Ab Circle Pro (hereafter referred to as ACP) claimed to have developed a machine that would revolutionise the fitness industry worldwide. They have reported sales of over two million units and while there have been numerous negative reviews throughout the global fitness industry, sales continue to grow.  This is evident with the introduction of the Ab Circle Pro V.2 and a more portable Ab Circle Pro Mini. </p>
<p>A quick search on the Internet and you will find a wave of negative and positive ACP reviews from fitness experts and members of the public.  It is easy for the general public to get confused about whether this product is a scam or whether it really works. However one thing is clear, from a business point of view the marketing team for ACP have hit the nail on the head with the millions of consumers searching for the holy grail of weight loss methods. </p>
<p>ACP engage fitness celebrity Jennifer Nicole Lee (JNL) to front a series of high-tempo infomercials and shopping channel adverts in which she makes some extraordinary claims and sends out some misleading key messages. My comments are not aimed at analyzing each claim and contesting their validity or not. That has been done and will be referred to later. My focus is whether or not JNL’s decision to join with ACP and promote the product is ethically contrary to the values and/or code of conduct expected of fitness professionals. At the very least you would expect a fitness expert to act with professional integrity.  </p>
<p>It is worth taking a quick look at who JNL is and what she stands for. JNL is one of the world&#8217;s most accomplished Super Fitness Models, and is an international celebrity due to her high profile wellness merchandise and key media appearances. Her career began when she lost over 80 lbs after the birth of her children. Her motivational weight loss success story caught the world’s attention, after she gained notoriety as a professional fitness competitor, holding countless titles and crowns. </p>
<p>She was soon a frequent guest on major US national talk shows, such as the Oprah Winfrey Oprah, E! Entertainment, Fox and Friends, etc. She is the CEO and visionary behind JNL Worldwide, Inc and is internationally recognized in over 110 different countries. Most importantly she is a devoted wife and mother, representing the millions of other mom’s and wives in the world with a brand they can trust.   “It’s my goal and passion to increase the quality of your lifestyle.” &#8211; JNL</p>
<p>It is fair to say that in business, all professionals are expected to act in accordance with a code of conduct or code of ethics relevant to that profession.   I have cited a few relevant examples from a selection of Fitness Organisations. </p>
<p>•	Fitness Australia Code of Ethics<br />
1.	Professional Integrity (In part only)<br />
o	Advertising.   Exercise professionals may advertise in connection with their professional practice if the advertising is not false, not misleading or deceptive or likely to mislead or deceive, is not vulgar or sensational, and does not claim or imply superiority of the exercise professional over any or all other exercise professionals. The advertisement for the exercise professional may contain a statement of the areas of expertise in practice.<br />
2.	Fitness New Zealand Code of Ethics<br />
3.	A member of Fitness New Zealand, and agrees to: (In part only)<br />
o	make no false claims with regard to any of the products and services offered by the club.<br />
o	not use deceptive or high-pressure sales tactics.<br />
4.	Global Fitness Association Members Code of Conduct<br />
5.	As a Member of Global Fitness Association, we agree to operate our facility(s) and conduct ourselves in accordance with the Global Fitness Association Code of Conduct, as set out below.   (In part only)<br />
o	Members should provide a trustworthy, safe, and caring exercise environment for our clients.  </p>
<p>In May 2011, each of the JNL and ACP claims was scientifically reviewed by Dr William Sukala PhD clinical exercise physiologist. The full review can be found online at <a href="http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/ab-circle-pro-review-fat-marketing-claims-thin-on-truth/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/ab-circle-pro-review-fat-marketing-claims-thin-on-truth/?referer=');">http://www.drbillofhealth.com/exercise/ab-circle-pro-review-fat-marketing-claims-thin-on-truth/</a> however the verdict is clear as outlined below.  </p>
<p>The verdict. After reviewing the infomercial, website, and product information, in my professional opinion, the Ab Circle Pro represents yet another “too-good-to-be-true” exercise contraption. I believe the product advertising is littered with confusing and/or misleading claims which, if not overtly false, clearly distort basic physiology and kinesiology to serve its marketing objectives. In my 20 years as a health professional, I don’t think I’ve seen a more egregiously offensive ad campaign for a fitness product. For reasons I’ve highlighted above, I feel this company 1) warrants closer scrutiny by consumer protection and regulatory agencies; and 2) should be held accountable by these agencies to furnish legitimate proof which supports their marketing claims.</p>
<p>Can you forgive a naive public for expecting that JNL’s claims about the ACP are true, not misleading? The black and white answer is “no”, everyone should look at the fine print and read the detail rather than claim that they were duped. However, when you look at JNL’s professional profile and the fitness industry’s code of ethics, her personal goal and passion and the fact that she is a wife and mother who has transformed herself, the fine print and the detail are all lost in the hype.  Its obvious to me that JNL has lost sight of her professional integrity.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are wanting to lose weight off your abs, then doing an abs exercise wont help.  It doesnt work that way.  You need to burn energy, not exercise the body part you want the weight loss from.   So if you cant run, then cycle, or lift weights, or row or swim.  Lots of options. This machine is just crap, pure and simple.  It wont do what the ad claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are wanting to lose weight off your abs, then doing an abs exercise wont help.  It doesnt work that way.  You need to burn energy, not exercise the body part you want the weight loss from.   So if you cant run, then cycle, or lift weights, or row or swim.  Lots of options. This machine is just crap, pure and simple.  It wont do what the ad claims.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
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		<description>I say don&#039;t ever enter Mombai without a visa....I was grilled for 3 hours ...had all the required info after reading visa requirements  but jammed over a paper required to say I was staying in a hotel...Hotel verified but at 3am did not have fax going and so delayed getting my visa... A frightening and bad experience....told by friends here I should have offered money to &#039;hasten &#039; the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say don&#8217;t ever enter Mombai without a visa&#8230;.I was grilled for 3 hours &#8230;had all the required info after reading visa requirements  but jammed over a paper required to say I was staying in a hotel&#8230;Hotel verified but at 3am did not have fax going and so delayed getting my visa&#8230; A frightening and bad experience&#8230;.told by friends here I should have offered money to &#8216;hasten &#8216; the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on AbCirclePro is crap and here is proof by Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>now confused to buy or not, have arthritis in both knees so cannot run, go walking but it is not shifting flabby stomach which is why ab circle pro appealed, need some sort of excercise machine to target abs, any ideas please</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now confused to buy or not, have arthritis in both knees so cannot run, go walking but it is not shifting flabby stomach which is why ab circle pro appealed, need some sort of excercise machine to target abs, any ideas please</p>
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		<dc:creator>Uzma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AS I read all these story&#039;s Im  worried as I baught the product and moved just after that to another place, I lost the nutrational dight plain in moving, and didnt got chance to try this machine .I called to the company and asked a copy of this plain, no answer recieved.I will be very thankful if any one provide me a copy of this so I can try my luck on this,Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS I read all these story&#8217;s Im  worried as I baught the product and moved just after that to another place, I lost the nutrational dight plain in moving, and didnt got chance to try this machine .I called to the company and asked a copy of this plain, no answer recieved.I will be very thankful if any one provide me a copy of this so I can try my luck on this,Thanks.</p>
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		<dc:creator>ASD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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